Saturday, August 18, 2007

The Circumcision Decision

For those of you that will find this to be too much information, look over here!

For the rest of you, I've been thinking about how to write about this topic without going crazy or having to research every point I wanted to make. As it turns out, Amy of Musings of a Crunchy Domestic Goddess has done all of the work already. She's clearly done a lot of research and spent a good deal of time building this very thoughtful post. Since it seems pointless to me to reinvent the wheel, I've decided to link to her post and post a copy of it here.
It’s amazing the number of things you never have to consider before becoming a parent - breastfeed or formula feed; cloth diapers or disposables; vaccinations; when to start solids; organic vs. conventional foods; public school, private school or homeschool; and, of course, if you are having a boy - whether or not to circumcise.

I hope to write about my feelings, opinions and choices regarding circumcision and my son, knowing full well that everyone who reads this blog will not agree with me. I think that anyone who has a son will have their list of reasons for why they decided for or against circumcision. I simply wish to share my reasons here (and some of the information I came across along the way) for deciding against it.

I hope that by including some links below to reputable sources, other parents who are trying to decide what is best for their son can make an informed decision - whether it be to circumcise or not.

I am not here to judge and it is my hope that any discussion that happens below in the comments remain civil and respectful, despite how strongly you may feel about this topic. I also ask that any “anonymous” posters please sign their posts with a name. Thank you.


The short and sweet answer as to why Jody and I are not having our son circumcised is that we can’t find a single reason to indicate that it is a necessary procedure.

I believe that the body we are born with, in its entirety, is that way for a reason. I think that each different part has a unique purpose for existing. If we didn’t need a certain part, I believe that over time we would evolve so that it no longer existed. [Hatchet Note: while interesting in theory, this idea is refuted by the existence of the appendix.]

In doing my research on circumcision, I came across a lot of interesting information. Some of it has to do with the origins of circumcision in the United States, some about the actual procedure, some about the effects of circumcision and about the current rates of circumcision in the U.S. I read a lot more than I will blog about here, but these are some things I thought were worth mentioning.

“Circumcision started in America during the masturbation hysteria of the Victorian Era, when a few American doctors circumcised boys to punish them for masturbating. Victorian doctors knew very well that circumcision denudes, desensitizes, and disables the penis. Nevertheless, they were soon claiming that circumcision cured epilepsy, convulsions, paralysis, elephantiasis, tuberculosis, eczema, bed-wetting, hip-joint disease, fecal incontinence, rectal prolapse, wet dreams, hernia, headaches, nervousness, hysteria, poor eyesight, idiocy, mental retardation, and insanity. In fact, no procedure in the history of medicine has been claimed to cure and prevent more diseases than circumcision. As late as the 1970s, leading American medical textbooks still advocated routine circumcision as a way to prevent masturbation.” — Paul M. Fleiss, MD The Case Against Circumcision

Uh, I’m not a guy and no expert, but I am pretty sure that circumcision does NOT prevent masturbation.

“Today the reasons given for circumcision have been updated to play on contemporary fears and anxieties; but one day they, too, will be considered irrational. Now that such current excuses as the claim that this procedure prevents cancer and sexually transmitted diseases have been thoroughly discredited, circumcisers will undoubtedly invent new ones. But if circumcisers were really motivated by purely medical considerations, the procedure would have died out long ago, along with leeching, skull-drilling, and castration. The fact that it has not suggests that the compulsion to circumcise came first, the “reasons,” later.” — Fleiss

The fact that new reasons to continue the circumcision practice are being invented is rather disturbing if you ask me.

One website I came across in my research shows step-by-step (graphic) pictures of an actual circumcision of a newborn boy. What Happens During Circumcision There is also a video there, but the pictures alone were more than enough for me. I don’t think I could’ve stomached the video. I had never thought much about the actual procedure itself. I figured that the foreskin was clamped and removed without much effort and the baby was left to heal over the next week or whatever. I didn’t think about the baby needing to be restrained, whether or not any type of anesthesia is used, the foreskin needing to be pried apart from the penis, the amount of bleeding involved, the raw exposed penis, etc. Not to mention the child crying in pain. :( It was not easy to look at.

There’s a laundry list of “things” that are lost forever when a circumcision takes place. While all of these things in the list are noteworthy, I thought I would mention a few here that stood out to me:

“When a baby boy’s natural and intact penis is “circumcised,” this is what is lost forever:
** An estimated 240 feet of microscopic nerves, including branches of the dorsal nerve.
** Several feet of blood vessels, including the frenular artery and branches of the dorsal artery. The loss of this dense vascularity interrupts normal blood flow to the shaft and glans of the penis, obviously damaging its natural function and possibly stunting its complete and healthy development.
** The immunological defense system of the soft mucosa, which may produce antibacterial and antiviral proteins such as lysozyme, also found in mothers milk, and plasma cells, which secrete immunoglobulin antibodies.
** The essential “gliding” mechanism. If unfolded and spread out flat, the average adult foreskin measures about 15 square inches, the size of a postcard. This abundance of specialized, self-lubricating mobile skin gives the natural penis its unique hallmark ability to smoothly “glide” in and out within itself—permitting natural non-abrasive masturbation and intercourse, without drying out the vagina or requiring artificial lubricants.” — Gary L. Harryman - What is Lost to Circumcision

I know some parents may be concerned about whether or not an intact penis requires special care. Personally, having no experience with an uncircumcised penis in the past, I had no idea what the answer was before asking friends of mine who’s sons were left intact. FYI:

“The natural penis requires no special care. A child’s foreskin, like his eyelids, is self-cleansing. For the same reason it is inadvisable to lift the eyelids and wash the eyeballs, it is inadvisable to retract a child’s foreskin and wash the glans. Immersion in plain water during the bath is all that is needed to keep the intact penis clean.” — Fleiss [Hatchet Note: Bolding for emphasis is mine.]

Also worth noting that the foreskin should never be forced to retract before it is ready.

“As noted, the foreskin and glans develop as one tissue. Separation will evolve over time. It should not be forced. When will separation occur? Each child is different. Separation may occur before birth; this is rare. It may take a few days, weeks, months, or even years. This is normal. Although many foreskins will retract by age 5, there is no need for concern even after a longer period. Some boys do not attain full retractability of the foreskin until adolescence.” — Newborns: Care of the Uncircumcised Penis

Regarding the rate of circumcision in the world and U.S.:

“Circumcision is almost unheard of in Europe, South America, and non-Muslim Asia. In fact, only 10 to 15 percent of men throughout the world are circumcised, the vast majority of whom are Muslim. The neonatal circumcision rate in the western U.S. has now fallen to 34.2 percent.” — Fleiss

“The nationwide circumcision rate had been fluctuating in the low 60 percent range for some years, but a decline in the percentage of boys circumcised started in 2002 and continued into 2003. From 2002 to 2003 declines occured in all four census regions. Non-circumcision has been the norm in the Western Region for more than a decade.” — U.S. Circumcision Incidence

I think it’s important to note that the circumcision rate is dropping in the United States because the old parental concern of not wanting a child to be teased because they look differently from the other boys will no longer be an issue if the ratio of circ’d boys to uncirc’d boys is approaching 50-50. I know in my own circle of friends, the ratio of circ’d boys to uncirc’d boys (babies and toddlers I mean) is probably more like 20 (circ’d) to 80 (uncirc’d) or even slightly higher in favor of the uncircumcised boys. Some parents I know (both in “real life” and on message boards) had their first son circumcised before they had done much research on the topic, and then, after learning more about the procedure, chose not to circumcise their second son.

(And now at the risk of sharing TMI…) Having never been with an uncircumcised man (yes, you can infer from that that Jody is circumcised), I was very interested to learn that not only is the pleasure of the male affected by circumcision, but also the pleasure of the female. (I mentioned a bit about this above as well.)

“One of the foreskin’s functions is to facilitate smooth, gentle movement between the mucosal surfaces of the two partners during intercourse. The foreskin enables the penis to slip in and out of the vagina nonabrasively inside its own slick sheath of self-lubricating, movable skin. The female is thus stimulated by moving pressure rather than by friction only, as when the male’s foreskin is missing.” — Fleiss

Like I said above, I couldn’t find a reason to convince me that circumcision is necessary for our son. I don’t feel the need to provide a list of all of the reasons against it. They are easy enough to find online. By reading through some of the links I provided below, you can read more information for yourself if you so desire.


In conclusion, I don’t feel that it is my right to make the decision to remove a part of my son’s anatomy without his consent. I believe that circumcision is a personal choice - one that should be made by the person who owns the penis. By leaving my son intact, he can always decide when he gets older that he wants to have a circumcision. If I were to circumcise him as a baby, he wouldn’t have the option of taking that back. I feel it is his body, his penis, and his choice.


National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers

Circumcision Resource Center

The Case Against Circumcision - an eye-opening, very informative (IMO) article By Paul M. Fleiss, MD, MPH (interesting to note that Fleiss is Jewish)

My Son: The Little Jew with a Foreskin - By Stacey Greenberg

The Case Against Circumcision Discussion Forum on

What Happens During Circumcision? - Graphic photos/video of the circumcision process on a newborn


Protect Your Uncircumcised Son: Expert Medical Advice for Parents

Circumcision Information and Resource Pages

Doctors Opposing Circumcision

-- AmyGeekGrl from Musings of a Crunchy Domestic Goddess

Strangely enough, Eric and I had made this decision long ago, right after we were married, thanks in part to a traumatizing video that his cousin had sent us on circumcisions. We then went on to not have a child for 5 years, but that didn't change our opinion any. This is something that we are both in agreement about, in case you're wondering if I pummeled Eric into submission about this topic. I didn't. Realistically, if I'm not OK with putting holes in my infant girl's ears for earrings*, why would I do something much more traumatic like circumcise? The answer is simple: I wouldn't.

It's not up to me to make that decision for another person and their body. If my children decide when they are old enough that they'd like to get their ears pierced, that's fine. If my son, when he's old enough, decides that he'd like to be circumcised, that's entirely up to him.

I'm well aware that some of you reading are circumcised or have made the decision to have your sons circumcised and I respect your decision. Now, it is our turn.

*In case you're wondering about the comparison of ear piercing to circs, I'm not trying to trivialize the circumcision. I'm being consistent in my lack of desire to modify my newborn's body.


amygeekgrl said...

i'm glad you found my post to be so informative. :)
and i had to LOL about you linking to icanhascheezburger.
btw, i see you are in CO. me too. whereabouts are you? feel free to email me -

amygeekgrl said...

also, was just looking at your baby shower pics post. congratulations on expecting twins! :)
i see that you and your husband/friends play WOW? my husband is big into it as well. not me though. i'm the WOW widow. *sniff*

Red Flashlight said...

I'm with you, Hatchet. 'Have been since my bio-ethics class in college. So many "medical" "procedures" seem designed to teach us that we don't own our own bodies. Icky. An illustration that sexism works against everyone.

Woman with a Hatchet said...

Hi there Amy!

Yes, we game - a lot. We're total geeks around here. Being a WOW Widow can't be very much fun at all - you should get account, too!

I'm getting a funny feeling we may live very close by you. Your picture of that Walgreens looks awful familiar to me!

I had found you via Law & Motherhood. Misty is one of my very best friends and when I saw your Top Post link about Circumcisions, I had to follow it.

Woman with a Hatchet said...

Red, that is the funny thing about sexism that gets Eric all riled up - we have such double standards (in some cases) when it comes to men and boys that we forget that it's wrong either way.

We had a long discussion a few weeks back about the fact that when female teachers molest boys they go very light on the sentencing and the boys get a high five and a slap on the back. The opposite is never true. The fact is, if you are an adult having sex with a child, regardless of the sex of that child you are molesting them. Society should stop pushing that idea that any sex boys have is Rah! Rah! sex.

Logan will know better.

amygeekgrl said...

yeah, that's what jody and other gamers tell me - that i should play too. LOL but how could i satisfy my blogging addiction if i was gaming all the time? ;)

interesting that the walgreen's looks familiar to you. i actually had the owner (i guess) post on that blog to say that she was the one responsible for putting up the sign. small world that she found my blog. :) so now i'm really curious if we do live near each other. drop me an email :)

ellen said...

FYI, neither of my boys are circumcised nor are my brothers. Little (Mongo) Oliver isn't either. You are not alone in your decision not to circumcise.

Woman with a Hatchet said...

Ellen, I know I'm not alone, for which I am very grateful. I suspect it is on the rise among crunchy granola types. Although I never really thought of myself as either crunchy or granola. : )

Maybe I'm Organi-Logical? I don't think I'm enough of a hippie to be termed Crunchy. I think Val would agree. : ) However I do like to research stuff and do "the right thing" regarding typically hippie topics like recycling, composting, buying local/organic.

Hmm...can I coin a new phrase?


Catherine said...

When we were doing our research about the circ choice, I found that it's also a geographic thing. And here, in the middle states, we still largely cut our boys. Well, not *we* since I didn't and you won't... it's less common on the coasts though.

Woman with a Hatchet said...

Hi Catherine! Good on you for your research and informed decision!

Hey! Seems we may be quite close to each other geographically! And Amygeekgrl, too. : )

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